John Knefel // Trump’s Cruelest Department

In light of Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen’s resignation as the head of the Department of Homeland Security, John Knefel reflects on her tenure and what can be expected from the Trump administration going forward.

Molly and John Knefel are hosts of the longrunning progressive politics podcast, Radio Dispatch.

Music featured in the episode: “Awake” by Tycho

Producer/EditorCharles Hinshaw